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Hear who this former Haley supporter says she'll vote for in November
04:59 - Source: CNN
Kellerton, Iowa CNN —
Shanen Ebersole is voting for Donald Trump. With plenty of reservations, but zero hesitation.
“It’s definitely a vote for Trump,” Ebersole said. “I’m happy doing that with the choices that we have. I don’t think there is any way I could vote any other direction.”
Ebersole was a Nikki Haley supporter when we first met before the Iowa caucuses. Trump won 59%of the caucus vote in conservative Ringgold County; Ebersole was one of just 16 votes forthe former South Carolina governor.
Once Trump locked up the GOP nomination, Ebersole thought a bit about voting third party. But her maverick streak has limits. Her family and her farm come first, so she came home to Trump.
“Because we have to put the American people first,” she said in an interview along the fence line of the Ebersole cattle farm. “I think that the policiesthat have been in place in the Harris-Biden administration — they hurt this. They hurt our land and they hurt the people of middle America the most.”
Ebersole is part of our All Over the Map project, an effort totrackthe 2024 campaign through the eyes and experiences of voters who live in key battlegrounds and are members of critical voting blocs or areas in thosestates.
John King talks to Iowa voter Shanen Ebersole on her cattle ranch in Kellerton, Iowa.
Iowa was an early 2024 battleground — the first test of whether Trump’s grip on the GOP had been loosened by his 2020 loss, his conduct on January6, 2021,or any of the myriad criminal and civil legal proceedings he has faced since leaving the White House. Trump won the caucuses with 51%— the beginning of a march to the nomination that proved his gripon the partyremains quite firm but also exposed important weaknesses.
One was among Republican women like Ebersole — those who supported Haley or other GOP contenders because they object to Trump’s combative and often caustic tone and, in many cases, see him as wandering too far from the conservative principles that drew them to the Republican Party.
Iowa, of course, is not considered a battlegroundin the general election this year.Ebersole’s “pretty simple” decision to support Trump despite her reservations helps explain why.
In the 12 presidential elections dating back to 1976, Iowa was evenly split in its choice for president. But Republicans have dominated of late. Trump won in both 2016 and 2020. Bothof the state’sUS senators are Republican, as are six of Iowa’s seven statewide constitutional offices.
Voters who say life was better under Trump fear Democrats have shifted too far left
Ebersole shared a view quite common here: that the Democratic Party is trending more liberal, more coastal, and more in favor of government mandates in climate and land policies.
“I’m not saying that there are not things we can do to improve,” Ebersole said. “But if you talk to a lot of us, we’re already doing things. There’s a huge regenerative movement here in the Americas by choice, not my mandate. I think that is the main thing that matters in politics — that we get to choose. We’re not being mandated to choose. … We just want to live in the middle of nowhere and raise cows and feed our neighbors across the country.”
Ebersole said Trump’s trade policies were better for her business.
“It was much harder to import beef,” she said. “Now most meat that you eat, on the American grocery store shelves, isn’t American beef, and that really concerns me.”She sees Vice President Kamala Harris as more liberal — and more likely to favor activist government — than PresidentJoeBiden.
“She is willing to push her agendas on those of us who live a totally different life,” Ebersole said,tying Harris to California’s policies.“Our California rancher friends are completely decimated by the policies and the government. Not by their weather conditions, not by any of those things, but by the government policies.”
Harris was the Californiaattorneygeneral from 2011-2017 and has worked in Washington since becoming a senator and now vice president.
The conversation is different here than in the swing states. On recent visits to Arizona and Pennsylvania, for example, some of our Republican voters who are not Trump fans said they would give Harris a chance to make her case.But inIowa, the Republicans in our group were harshly critical of the vice president and more comfortable with coming home to the GOP despite issues they may havewith Trump and his most vocal MAGA allies.
“Most of the people that vote for Trump are just quiet people who want to live our own lives in our own place,” Ebersole said. “We’re willing to tell those people to quiet down a bit.”
It may seem an odd time to visit Iowa, given its status as a solid red state,when considering each candidate’s strategy to win 270 electoral votes. But we wanted to better understand why those who were so critical of Trump at the beginning of the campaign cycle are so comfortable supporting him now.We wanted a firsthand lookat how our Iowa group — the first one we visited in August 2023— viewsthe race now that Harris has replaced Biden atop the Democratic ticket and chosen a Midwest governor, Tim Walz of Minnesota, to be her running mate.
“He’s trying to figure out how to deal with her,” Chris Mudd, a businessmanfrom Cedar Falls,said of Trump, whom heardently supports. “I think he spends too much time bashing and complaining. … I think he’ll catch his stride. I think he will get back on his horse.”
John King talks with Iowa voter Chris Mudd in Cedar Falls.
Mudd owns Midwest Solar,and business is strong in part because of Biden administration clean energy tax incentives.
But Mudd would gladly give up that help in exchange for Trump’s policies on regulation and immigration.
“If all I was selling was government incentives, I don’t think business would be very good,” Mudd said in an interview at his home. “But that’s not what we’re selling. We’re selling the power to help people save money.”
Mudd also believes Trump is more tested on the world stage.
“I think about what’s happening in the Middle East,” Mudd said. “Who would I want to negotiate that peace? Kamala or Donald Trump? And for me, it’s simple.”
Mudd believes the media is too soft on Harris, and he echoes Trump and his MAGA media allies in complaining the vice president rarely takes questions from reporters. He also echoes another line coming from Trump, suggesting there is no way Harris can win an honest election.
“There were shenanigans,” Mudd said when asked what he would think if Harris wins the White House. “I don’t think she has a chance to win in a fair fight. … I just don’t believe it is possible. I really don’t. …Many like me would think the same thing: If Kamala Harris gets 81 million votes, something really went haywire.”
Previously leaning toward Biden in a 2020 rematch, but now for Trump
Betsy Sarcone considers such talk a waste of time.
“I don’t buy the stolen election,” said Sarcone, a mother of three who lives in the Des Moines suburbs. “If she wins, she wins. I am not getting on that bandwagon.”
Butthe fact thatSarcone plans to vote for Trump is a big change from our first conversation just over a year ago.
Then, she said it was time for the Republican Party to find new leadership and that if the 2024 election ended up as a 2020 rematch, she would vote for Biden.
John King sits with Iowa voter Betsy Sarcone and her family in West Des Moines, Iowa.
But Sarcone said grocery prices are still too high, her real estate business too slow.
“I would describe myself as being resigned to voting for Donald Trump,” Sarcone said. “I just can’t vote for the status quo and I was absolutely better off during Donald Trump’s presidency than I am today.”
Sarcone has a dim view of Harris.
“She’s already been in office,” she said. “She could have done something about the economy. She could have done something about the border.”
Like the others in our Iowa group, Sarcone places Harris to the left of Biden.
“I’d say far left,” she said. “I’d say woke.”
Sarcone sees Trump as rattled by the switch to Harris.
“I think he is handling it wrong,” she said. “I wish that he would stick to the issues and cut the side conversations that are not relevant.”
John King and Iowa voter Priscilla Forsyth at a baseball game in Sioux City, Iowa.
Sioux City attorney Priscilla Forsyth, too, sees Trump as off his game now that Harris is his opponent.
“She’s pulling his chain,” Forsyth said. “I don’t think he knows what to think.”
When we first met Forsyth last August, she was impressed with another GOP candidate, entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy. Soon, though, she would label him shallow and childish and shift her allegiance to Haley.
Now, though, Forsyth sees Harris as “radical” and has no qualms about voting for Trump.
“I see Kamala and I see Walz as being so far left it concerns me,” Forsyth said in an interview.
“I’m comfortable with Trump. We had four years of Trump. We know what Trump is. We know what to expect. We all survived. … I’m not voting for him to be my valentine. I’m not voting for him to be my best friend. I think he did an OK job running the country.”
